This
years Ozzfest has been said to be one of its most heavy metal
geared line ups since its incarnation. Mixing the likes of
such bands as Black Sabbath, Slayer, Slipknot, Lamb Of God
and the mighty return of Judas Priest might lead one to believe
they have died and gone to metal heaven (or hell). Joining
the ranks of this year's venomous lineup is the Norwegian
black metal export Dimmu Borgir. We here at Schwegweb.com
couldn't pass up the opportunity to get a chance to sit down
with lead vocalists Shagrath to get the inside scoop on one
of extreme music's most prestigious acts.
Thanks
go out to Hannah at Nuclear Blast America as well as Shagrath
for making the time to make this happen.
Schwegweb:
First of all how is the mighty Ozzfest treating Dimmu Borgir?
Shagrath: Very good I would say. We're very happy with
this tour.
Do
you feel being a black metal band that Dimmu Borgir is hard
to swallow for most Ozzfest fans?
"I guess it's totally new for most ticket buyers watching
the shows because it's more heavy metal based on the main
stage but for us it seems the thing to do so people can discover
our music and figure out what we are about."
I
would have to say compared to the second stage bands Dimmu
Borgir is way more metal, most acts tend to all sound the
same, do you like any of the second stage bands?
"Yea,
(laughter).I would have to say the same, exactly. No I am
not into the other bands, Slipknots ok."
With
the release of the new Ozzfest edition of Death Cult Armageddon
you guys have a blistering cover of a Bathory song, was Quarthon
(the late lead singer of the classic black metal band Bathory)
a huge influence on Dimmu Borgir?
"Not
directly influenced but we are fans of Bathory, we have always
been into Bathory, at least most of the band. We did a cover
song to pay our tribute to Bathory of course but we never
directly took inspiration from Bathory. We have always been
a band that even if we have favorite bands we don't try to
copy our favorite bands. We always go our own direction. So
many people make mistakes when they start a band, they try
to sound like or try to copy their favorite bands and that
is not the right way to go. That's all the reason for our
success is basically because we have always been a band that
doesn't listen to what people say, we don't give a fuck; we
do our own thing. Like it or hate it, either way we don't
care."
Was
Ozzfest your first choice for the summer or was this something
that was brought to you?
"We had some other choices for the summer to do other
tours in the states but Ozzfest was our first choice."
Have
your off date shows during this tour been much more satisfying?
"The headlining shows the people go crazier because they
know our music; at Ozzfest there are a lot of people that
just stand there and wonder what the fuck is this. Were used
to it now but the first couple of shows it was kinda strange.
It's not what we're used to but you get use to it after awhile."
Do
you think your genera of music has gotten as big as it will
get in the states or is there a lot of potentional still to
be a larger force in metal?
"There's a lot of potentional still. The difference between
us and a lot of other black metal bands from Europe is that
I don't think so many bands want to come to the states because
you have to work so hard. You have to start from scratch playing
some of the worst clubs ever, no showers, no food, nothing,
driving around in vans. It's very hard for bands to come over.
We did it, we worked our way up and that is what you have
to do to sell records in the states. I think a lot of bands
in Europe are happy where they are, I don't think they concentrate
on the American market so much. Our music has potential but
black metal is more of a European thing and I don't think
it is easy for Americans to understand. It's hard to explain
but it is such a big difference from Europe and America in
black metal. Black metal is a very serious thing in Europe,
in America people are into different styles of music like
Hatebreed. Jumping up and down on stage and saying fuck you
is not the right way to go when you play metal in my opinion."
Does
Dimmu Borgir try to incorporate their orchestral sounds live
or are you limited on that part of your music?
"No, it's keyboard basically. It sounds rougher that
way. We do use samples from the album also so it works out
great. It is impossible to have a full orchestra on tour any
ways. It still works."
Dimmu
Borgir have always seemed to explore outside the traditional
black metal sound, is this something you try to convey on
each album?
"We always do that and that is the direction we want
to go. Every album we want to work in new territories improving
our selves sound wise. When you buy an Iron Maiden album you
know what to expect, we don't want to be a band like that.
Our first album compared to our new one we totally sound like
a different band but I think that is a good thing. I'm sure
on our next album we will sound different then our last. It
will still have all the typical Dimmu ingredients in our music
but we will still work with new things and see where it takes
us."
Do
you feel that there is some what of a competitive edge between
Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth?
"A lot of people say that and feel that but it's just
not the case. I think the reason that is said is because we
are one of the only bands doing what we do on a more professional
level; we tour a lot and spend a lot of time working with
our music compared to other bands. Sound, concept and lyrical
wise we are two different bands, it's like night and day so
you can't really compare our music to Cradle of Filth."
What
are your views on the crimes that have been associated with
black metal and do you think these things hold back bands
such as yours from gaining more popularity?
"We never took part in the criminal aspects of black
metal. In Norway we had a burning church almost every fucking
week but not now. For us it is about music and getting our
aggression out. We don't want to spend our lives in jail for
doing a stupid thing, we're not that stupid. There is a limit
to how many albums we can sell because we are not commercial
music. It is extreme music with extreme attitude and you just
can't sell a million albums for such a musical genera like
ours. I'm sure we can sell more albums but it won't be like
Judas Priest."
Do
you think having Dimmu Borgir on Ozzfest will help open the
doors wider for black metal in the states?
"Maybe, I hope we can sell more albums and become more
known; that's why we did this tour."
What
have you been doing in your spare time during Ozzfest?
"Yea there's a lot of spare time. Watch movies, getting
drunk, mingle with people and staring at the wall; shit like
that."
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